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Spoony   rank: #3
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#1
   12/7/2009 5:10 PM
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post ideas tbh for the next tournament.
 
i'm thinking a 2v2 would be pretty good, each round consisting of a best-of-five series.
 
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#2
   12/8/2009 12:59 AM
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3v3 tournament tbh
 
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#3
   12/8/2009 12:44 PM
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How about a 2v2 where say if 24 people signed up, the top voted player and the bottom player played together, and so on and so forth.  I think it would be fun to play with a random person and learn some strats/make renebuddies
 
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#4
   12/8/2009 1:53 PM
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Random 2v2 teams could be a good one
 
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#5
   12/8/2009 2:18 PM
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+1
 
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#6
   12/8/2009 7:05 PM
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Replying to post #4   12/8/2009 1:53 PM


quoting: New2reN

Random 2v2 teams could be a good one

 
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BoSNiaN  
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#7
   12/9/2009 10:47 AM
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Replying to post #6   12/8/2009 7:05 PM


quoting: Volcom

Replying to post #4   12/8/2009 1:53 PM


quoting: New2reN

Random 2v2 teams could be a good one



Agreed. But also, no seeding and just assign games either randomly or on comparative skill levels.
 
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#8
   12/9/2009 10:41 PM
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goddamn im smart
 
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#9
   12/10/2009 7:27 AM
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No, the idea only got accepted when I mentioned it, STFU
 
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ZeLL   rank: #3
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#10
   12/10/2009 7:28 AM
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absolutely retarded idea considering it has NEVER worked in the past and still wont
come up with ideas for a  tournament which may actually have a chance of being finished a random 2v2/3v3 tournament  has always been an attractive idea however the chances and past experiences show that it will never progress past the first round
 
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#11
   12/10/2009 11:03 AM
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Replying to post #10   12/10/2009 7:28 AM


quoting: ZeLL

absolutely retarded idea considering it has NEVER worked in the past and still wont
come up with ideas for a  tournament which may actually have a chance of being finished a random 2v2/3v3 tournament  has always been an attractive idea however the chances and past experiences show that it will never progress past the first round


Yea TD wtf were you thinking
 
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#12
   12/11/2009 10:52 AM
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^haha
 
@Zell, are you saying its because people only want to play with the 1-2 people they know? Id say the majority dont give a fluck who they play with as long as they not awful or make too many mistakes etc But random doesnt have to mean out of hat, more like spoony puts comparable people together manually
 
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#13
   12/11/2009 12:07 PM
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I think the only truely fair way of doing it is to put the best with the worst etc. regardless of what has happened in the past.
 
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#14
   12/11/2009 9:02 PM
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Replying to post #12   12/11/2009 10:52 AM


quoting: BoSNiaN

^haha
 
@Zell, are you saying its because people only want to play with the 1-2 people they know? Id say the majority dont give a fluck who they play with as long as they not awful or make too many mistakes etc But random doesnt have to mean out of hat, more like spoony puts comparable people together manually


no fact is ive signed up for the past random 2v2 tournaments and not once have i played in the first round because no1 can seem to find their partner and have their partner AND the other team on at the same time
and they just basicaly gave up
fact is putting a bunch of people who the other person has no ****ing clue who he is and at what times he could be ready for a game with the other team (who have the exact same situation they dont have a clue who the **** is the other person playing with them)
tbh i have always been up to the idea of helping people to get better and give them the tips that they can learn but i think if ur asking for this kind of tournament u will probaly kill any future tournaments because of the fact this is a very complicated and time consuming tournament and most people on this game would rather play with their friends then play with a unknown and go through all the effort to get their game done
i think ur suggestion with putting comparable people together manually isnt such a good idea either considering he will not know all the newer people and everybody has a different opinion of skill lvl for each person
for example i could say this volcom guy is better then u and well id have no ****ing clue cause well i dont know either of u
there is NO way of doing this fairly unless he actually does what he did last time and puts on his scream costume and puts the paper in a hat and picks out random names like last time
either way i dont suggest this to be the next tournament you should try a more simple 1 and if the tournaments get finished then maybe spoony would try the random 2v2 tournament
EDIT: i wrote essay cause i was bored I SWEAR!!11



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 Edited By ZeLL [ 12/11/2009 9:03:44 PM ]
 
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#15
   12/12/2009 4:11 AM
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i think the point of random teams is not knowing who the "****" you are playing with zell... and maybe the people who know they are not going to have much time available(school, work , ... ), while the tournament is being played should not sign up so it wouldnt cause people to wait to the deadline, unless they find a way to be able to play people from other countires without having a problem. And maybe a solution to this problem is having random teams , but trying to keep these players in the same TimeZone´s so the players wont have to stay up till 1 in the morning to play his tourni game. I think we probably have a good mix of players on .cc some from America , some from EU .
 
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#16
   12/12/2009 7:06 AM
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the only tourneys that ever finish are 1v1's, and even they take a long time



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 Edited By moby2222 [ 12/12/2009 7:06:22 AM ]
 
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#17
   12/12/2009 8:25 AM
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Replying to post #15   12/12/2009 4:11 AM


quoting: go7rilla9

i think the point of random teams is not knowing who the "****" you are playing with zell... and maybe the people who know they are not going to have much time available(school, work , ... ), while the tournament is being played should not sign up so it wouldnt cause people to wait to the deadline, unless they find a way to be able to play people from other countires without having a problem. And maybe a solution to this problem is having random teams , but trying to keep these players in the same TimeZone´s so the players wont have to stay up till 1 in the morning to play his tourni game. I think we probably have a good mix of players on .cc some from America , some from EU .


i think u completely missed the point fact is clanwars has come abck up and people prefer putting effort into getting clanwars and they put alot more effort into getting clanwars then they do organising **** with whoever they have as a partner cause people do actually prefer to play clanwars then a 2v2 random tournament
besides have u even been in 1 of these random 2v2 tournaments?
and what about people who have enough time but then all of a sudden something comes up? theres so many things which goes wrong in the random tournaments all i think is that u guys should actually use ur brain and consider building up to it rather then running straight to the most attractive complicated tournament
...and the time zone will always be a problem because ur putting RANDOM people with another RANDOM person so chances are i could be matched up to a american and u could be matched to a EU player and itd make thigns ven more complicated
 
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BoSNiaN  
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#18
   12/12/2009 10:47 AM
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@Zell, every potential tournament has issues with **** popping up for people, and it wouldnt be new random people but atleast people you've heard of before and maybe already have their msn when asking for games, etc But yah, Spoony has been wrong about skill levels a few times, but so have many other people which is why seeding is dumb, so I guess random is actually the only way to go...
 
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#19
   12/12/2009 11:12 AM
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i dont see how this 2v2 tourni is going to lower the .cc games that have been played last few months .. i think it could only get btr if we promoted maybe. and yes ive been in enough 2v2 / 1v1 tournaments so np about that. and this 2v2 tourni would have the same problems all the others had its not that big of a difference .. and as in my last post , the paarings of different Lands should be minimized ,  the euros  will be matched with euros and americans with americans
 
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ZeLL   rank: #3
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#20
   12/12/2009 12:20 PM
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im not saying it will lower .cc games...dude...are u pulling **** out of ur ass i mean wtf how cant u see what i mean FACT IS PEOPLE WOULD RATHER MAKE AN EFFORT TO PLAY CLAN GAMES THEN DO THEIR TOURNAMENT GAME WITH SOMEONE THEY DONT RLY KNOW i said nothing about it lowering activity or anything
and u obviously havent been in a 2v2 tournament for clanwars.cc THEY NEVER GET FINISHED a 2v2 tournament with some1 u know would be alot easier and would have more of a chance of being finished then a random 2v2 tournament surely im not only 1 who can see this even simpee said it the only tournaments which seem to get done are 1v1's and even they take ****ing forever
what im trying to get at is that spoony might not make another tournament if a tournament is a failure do u think he would be suggesting another tournament if this 1v1 tournament failed?? maybe he would but itd be a bigger chance he wouldnt bother because the previous tournament was a failure
i am not going to get into a discussion about this because no matter what u say the **** im talking about happens all the time with clanwars.cc i just suggested a more simple idea for now and build up to it rather then go straight for the most complicated tournament if u choose not to then w.e i gave my opinion so that u guys may actually have a tournament which could be worth competing in if it actually does work this time then well played to you
and bosnian even choosing random new people would probaly be an issue cause what ur basicaly saying is only a certain few people qualify for the "new player" category
 
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New2reN   rank: #3
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#21
   12/13/2009 2:42 AM
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Whoah zell
 
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#22
   12/14/2009 11:38 AM
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Bosnian doesn't even play clanwars, he doesn't know how the system works since he has only played about 10 clanwars, lost them all and was probably cheating when doing so.
 
Stop wasting your time zell!!
 
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Spoony   rank: #3
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#23
   12/15/2009 2:22 AM
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2v2 random teams isn't gonna work.
 
last time we did it semi-random semi-manual. we split players into an A list and a B list based on a vote of skill, then matched the As with random Bs. if i may correct zell on the most important point, it was a Grim Reaper costume and i wrote the player names onto playing cards then dealt them out.
 
i do believe a more traditional 2v2 tournament is the way to go. i'm sure we can get eight teams from the clans here.
 
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#24
   12/15/2009 10:33 AM
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tbh no 2v2/3v3 tournys have ever worked well here, why don't we just do more 1v1 tournys but on rush maps?!
 
 
 
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Spoony   rank: #3
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#25
   12/15/2009 12:44 PM
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i've considered that too, could work pretty well.
 
all the rush maps except wallsfly?
 
also instead of just one map per round played twice, how about a "first to three" series. i.e. you play volcano, complex, canyon, islands and walls, random side on all of them.
 
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